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		<title>By: Andrew O'Hara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew O'Hara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 04:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I dabbled a bit and, in my ignorance, have roamed around PW.  I wake up at night recalling your phrase &quot;everyone fears PW,&quot; yet find myself wondering why.  But they are &#039;The P-W,&#039; I suppose.  They fawn over Oprah, who gave William Faulkner his start in literature.  Also, no doubt, PW can take credit for making years-long best sellers of tripe like &quot;Walter the Farting Dog&quot; (&#039;Their simple strategy just keep saying &quot;fart&quot; should have children rolling in the aisles during read-aloud&#039;).  The punctuation error is theirs, I might add.

Granted, I recognize elitists but don&#039;t have to appreciate them.  I agree with your advice to Mr. Barlow to ignore the slight and move ahead.  My guess is the reading public doesn&#039;t fear--or care a whit--about PW or their royal pronouncements nearly as much as writers, publishers and, unfortunately for Mr. Barlow, the faint-hearted press.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I dabbled a bit and, in my ignorance, have roamed around PW.  I wake up at night recalling your phrase &#8220;everyone fears PW,&#8221; yet find myself wondering why.  But they are &#8216;The P-W,&#8217; I suppose.  They fawn over Oprah, who gave William Faulkner his start in literature.  Also, no doubt, PW can take credit for making years-long best sellers of tripe like &#8220;Walter the Farting Dog&#8221; (&#8216;Their simple strategy just keep saying &#8220;fart&#8221; should have children rolling in the aisles during read-aloud&#8217;).  The punctuation error is theirs, I might add.</p>
<p>Granted, I recognize elitists but don&#8217;t have to appreciate them.  I agree with your advice to Mr. Barlow to ignore the slight and move ahead.  My guess is the reading public doesn&#8217;t fear&#8211;or care a whit&#8211;about PW or their royal pronouncements nearly as much as writers, publishers and, unfortunately for Mr. Barlow, the faint-hearted press.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 23:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those reviews are a bit stunning.

What does the book jacket look like? Are the rave reviews on it? Are they in the press release? 

Did anyone do a targeted email campaign that included a px of your book jacket and some fragments from these comments to generate new interest? 

I would definitely do an end run around PW&#039;s comment by ignoring it. I just find it hard to believe that PW could crush your book so thoroughly when you&#039;ve gotten such excellent reviews that you could use. 

Has anyone else got an opinion out there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those reviews are a bit stunning.</p>
<p>What does the book jacket look like? Are the rave reviews on it? Are they in the press release? </p>
<p>Did anyone do a targeted email campaign that included a px of your book jacket and some fragments from these comments to generate new interest? </p>
<p>I would definitely do an end run around PW&#8217;s comment by ignoring it. I just find it hard to believe that PW could crush your book so thoroughly when you&#8217;ve gotten such excellent reviews that you could use. </p>
<p>Has anyone else got an opinion out there?</p>
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		<title>By: John Barlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Barlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 18:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since you asked&#8230;</p>
<p>Publishers Weekly said, after a summary of the plot: “&#8230;the Brookeses [main characters] prove engaging but not remarkable, and Rodrigo is colorful but hardly unforgettable. What is remarkable is Barlow&#8217;s attention to period detail, a potent Victorian cocktail of repressed sexuality and simmering violence, but the secret formula that would make it work is missing.”</p>
<p>Other big reviews said&#8230;</p>
<p>Washington Post<br />
&#8230;as surprising, funny and satisfying as a good belch. The British writer is something of a master at concocting what could be called &#8220;sentimental grotesques,&#8221; and Intoxicated , a novel about the development of an improbable soft drink made from rhubarb, delivers a strange but irresistible mix of flavors&#8230;.. Intoxicated delivers the goods. It&#8217;s the real thing. </p>
<p>Booksense (March ’06 notable)<br />
Take a pinch of T.C. Boyle and of E.L. Doctorow, add some molasses and secret ingredients, and a flare for period dialogue, and you’ve got a great new novel.</p>
<p>Kirkus<br />
Like T.C. Boyle, to whom he has been appropriately compared, Barlow paints personalities in broad strokes and doesn’t shun melodrama&#8230;. Despite his novels’ excesses, the author conveys genuine affection for his grotesque characters and situates Rhubarilla’s creation within the shrewdly observed context of Victorian society, culture and business. (Barlow sketches with equal authority a music-hall performance, the workings of the temperance movement and the tentative early stirrings of modern advertising.)&#8230;. Barlow’s lively imagination will carry along those who appreciate risk-taking fiction.</p>
<p>Booklist<br />
Victorian England will never be the same again. A whimsical, farcical novel that weaves together the most unlikely people and situations, making for a madcap read.</p>
<p>Library Journal<br />
&#8230;in the style of Gregory Maguire&#8217;s fairy tale reworkings (e.g., Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister), this fizzy literary concoction will intoxicate readers who love irreverent humor.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 17:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, I refuse to accept that a book published in March 2006 to the kind of reviews you got should be considered a failure by April 2006 because no one is buying <em>Intoxicated</em>. <strong>I still think the market has not been targeted&#8211;people from or living in Yorkshire.</strong></p>
<p>Quoting your comment in Grumpy Old Bookman: <em>&#8220;The week prior to publication we had two syndicated radio interviews coming up, reviews slated for Atlantic Monthly and for the biggest advertising trade magazine in the US (the novel touches on advertising); all the big newspaper book editors had the novel. Three of the ‘big four’ trade reviews had been good; Mathew Pearl (The Dante Club) had offered an amazing blurb for the cover (on the strength of which the rights were sold in Russia); the novel had got a Booksense notable pick. The only negative point was a bad line (a killer line) in a trade review. Unfortunately, it was Publishers Weekly.</em></p>
<p><em>The Washington Post ran an early review, which was stunningly good. But then no one else ran anything. It might have been PW, or not. The radio interviews were cancelled, the Atlantic review was pulled; ditto the magazine. Not a single piece of press of any sort, in any media, was generated for the book from then on.&#8221; </em></p>
<p>I&#8217;d be tempted to capitalize on the PW negative review, if that&#8217;s what it was. I&#8217;d change my press release headline to read: &#8221;<em>PW</em> Hates Intoxicated!&#8221; Then I would mention all the positive reviews. <strong>I&#8217;d give <em>Publishers Weekly</em> a punch in the nose.</strong> What did the review say? How bad could it have been? Tell us!  </p>
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		<title>By: John Barlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Barlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 16:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Lynne:</p>
<p>Thank you so much for all the suggestions at <a title="Barlow" href="http://www.grumpyoldbookman.blogspot.com">Grumpy Old Bookman</a> on March 30th, and for taking an interest in [<em>Intoxicated's</em>] curious progress. All your ideas for focussing on the Yorkshire angle are brilliant. It would have been great to do that kind of marketing for the UK edition, but it seems less likely now that there&#8217;ll be one. The publishers are indeed trying, but Nielsen doesn&#8217;t lie, and the numbers really were bad.</p>
<p>The good news is that a US paperback is being issued, with a whole new cover design. Don&#8217;t ask me how THAT was justified to Accounts&#8230; Nevertheless, I can use some of those ideas of yours for the US paperback.</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m immersed in non-fiction for a while now.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>John</p>
<p><em>Note from the Wicked Witch of Pubishing: John has written three books: Intoxicated</em><em> (pub date March 2006!), </em>Los Ratones<em> and</em> Eating Mammals <em>(won The Paris Review Discovery Prize in 2002). Born in England. Living in Spain. Grumpy Old Bookman reviewed John&#8217;s book and a number of fellow bloggers responded. Take a look. By the way, I</em> love being thought of as brilliant! </p>
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		<title>By: James Aach</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Aach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 00:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate the above info being passed along.  I recall when the Sloan foundation began their screenplay thing I looked into it, and it didn&#039;t seem to fit.  Perhaps I should look again.  The Rocky Mountain Institute has a very firm anti-nuclear stance, so they wouldn&#039;t care for my book.  But a  good question to ask.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the above info being passed along.  I recall when the Sloan foundation began their screenplay thing I looked into it, and it didn&#8217;t seem to fit.  Perhaps I should look again.  The Rocky Mountain Institute has a very firm anti-nuclear stance, so they wouldn&#8217;t care for my book.  But a  good question to ask.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter L. Winkler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter L. Winkler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 22:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To James Aach:

The Sloan Foundation has been giving grants to screenplays, of all things, about the lives of scientists. Each year they&#039;ve announced the grant winners at the Tribeca film festival. So, evidently they&#039;ve crossed the line from nonfiction to fiction.

Also. what about Amory Lovins&#039; Rocky Mountain whatchamacallit energy group? Mightn&#039;t they be receptive to your book?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To James Aach:</p>
<p>The Sloan Foundation has been giving grants to screenplays, of all things, about the lives of scientists. Each year they&#8217;ve announced the grant winners at the Tribeca film festival. So, evidently they&#8217;ve crossed the line from nonfiction to fiction.</p>
<p>Also. what about Amory Lovins&#8217; Rocky Mountain whatchamacallit energy group? Mightn&#8217;t they be receptive to your book?</p>
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		<title>By: Noel Guinane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noel Guinane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><!--more-->With a commitment of 2000 pre-sold copies, you can walk into any publishing company or knock on any agent’s door and they will slap a contract on the desk and hand you a cheap Bic pen.</em></p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve got an order for 2000 copies of your book combined with an ability to obtain media interviews and news program recommendations, set up book signings and reach the final stages in competitions, you don&#8217;t need an agent. You can deal directly. There is nothing I can see that an agent can add, unless it is advising you on selling rights which can be obtained from a lawyer and which people will want to buy anyway as the interest in your book builds.</p>
<p>A good agent, if you get one, will earn their fee by actively developing this interest on your behalf.</p>
<p><em>Note from the Wicked Witch of Publishing: Per Noel Guiane&#8217;s email to me, he is the Managing Director of <a title="B&#038;T" href="http://www.bloodandtreasure.com">Blood &#038; Treasure</a>, Ltd. in London. B&#038;T appears to be the publisher of a book called Institutionalized by Fred Smith and Joe Schmoe. Really!? Hah! This is a very sophisticated looking blog. Note the caricatures on the r-h sidebar under Blogrolls. Clever and very different.   </em></p>
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		<title>By: Dave Newton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any writer who&#039;s bumbled into this blog and NOT recycled his or her collection of Writer&#039;s Digest books and clips is prime for a cerebellum transplant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any writer who&#8217;s bumbled into this blog and NOT recycled his or her collection of Writer&#8217;s Digest books and clips is prime for a cerebellum transplant.</p>
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		<title>By: Krista Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krista Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lynne, 
The posting looks great, and thanks for &quot;making an example out of me!&quot; The only thing I would add is that I have always sent out every query to a specific agent, never to &quot;Dear Agent,&quot; and I have still been rejected 20 times. I think the key things are A) to have a great letter (which I now do, thanks to your wise tutelage), B) send it out to very well-chosen agents/editors who have an interest in your genre, and C) keep on sending it until you get representation. 

I will be sure to let you know when I finally get that bite. (Can you send flowers to an email address??) ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynne,<br />
The posting looks great, and thanks for &#8220;making an example out of me!&#8221; The only thing I would add is that I have always sent out every query to a specific agent, never to &#8220;Dear Agent,&#8221; and I have still been rejected 20 times. I think the key things are A) to have a great letter (which I now do, thanks to your wise tutelage), B) send it out to very well-chosen agents/editors who have an interest in your genre, and C) keep on sending it until you get representation. </p>
<p>I will be sure to let you know when I finally get that bite. (Can you send flowers to an email address??) <img src='http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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