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Comments on: Wicked Witch Survey Results: Publishing Companies Create Vanity Web Sites, Authors Twist in the Wind, Readers Really Do Read http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/04/20/wicked-witch-survey-results-publishing-industry-creates-vanity-web-sites-authors-twist-in-the-wind-readers-really-do-read/ Tendentious comments and cranky critiques by Lynne W. Scanlon P.E.A. (Publisher/Editor/Author) Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:15:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0 by: Lisa http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/04/20/wicked-witch-survey-results-publishing-industry-creates-vanity-web-sites-authors-twist-in-the-wind-readers-really-do-read/#comment-21681 Mon, 07 May 2007 22:55:31 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/04/20/wicked-witch-survey-results-publishing-industry-creates-vanity-web-sites-authors-twist-in-the-wind-readers-really-do-read/#comment-21681 Am I the only person on the planet who reads non-fiction? My guilty pleasure is shelter porn -- beautiful pictures of villas I can never have. Am I the only person on the planet who reads non-fiction? My guilty pleasure is shelter porn — beautiful pictures of villas I can never have.

]]> by: Rolf - James Patterson Fan http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/04/20/wicked-witch-survey-results-publishing-industry-creates-vanity-web-sites-authors-twist-in-the-wind-readers-really-do-read/#comment-11125 Sat, 17 Feb 2007 09:22:11 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/04/20/wicked-witch-survey-results-publishing-industry-creates-vanity-web-sites-authors-twist-in-the-wind-readers-really-do-read/#comment-11125 Everything of James Patterson. Yes, this is not what literary critics tend to hype up. But it's great entertainment! I read books and listen to audio books for pleasure and to relax. Why should I work my throuhg a contorted, difficult to read and even more difficult to understand book, just because it has been labeled by literary circles? And once more Yes: The book stands at airports are where I bought most of these, and of Grisham, King etc... in my opinion good literature that entertains me. What else do I want? You survey results are interesting, just shows that big bucks don't mean big success. As you say, give me a million dollars and I bring you a website into the top 10'000 anytime. --- Anybody who actually has that budget? give me a call! Note from the Wicked Witch of Publishing (TM): I see nothing wrong with reading for entertainment. To each his own. I like mindless TV on occasion as well, after a tough day or not-so-tough day. And some people ONLY like a breezy read or TV show. Usually, there is something for everyone on the various best-seller lists. And one man's literature is another man's dreck. The vanity Web sites, mostly from the large publishers, are vanity Web sites by my definition because the publishers don't market their Web sites and more than they market the books they publish. Actually, it's worse with the Web sites. That may change, however, as publishers find they MUST tap into the Web market, or continue to lose ground to others who do. Everything of James Patterson. Yes, this is not what literary critics tend to hype up. But it’s great entertainment! I read books and listen to audio books for pleasure and to relax. Why should I work my throuhg a contorted, difficult to read and even more difficult to understand book, just because it has been labeled by literary circles? And once more Yes: The book stands at airports are where I bought most of these, and of Grisham, King etc… in my opinion good literature that entertains me. What else do I want?

You survey results are interesting, just shows that big bucks don’t mean big success. As you say, give me a million dollars and I bring you a website into the top 10′000 anytime. — Anybody who actually has that budget? give me a call!

Note from the Wicked Witch of Publishing ™: I see nothing wrong with reading for entertainment. To each his own. I like mindless TV on occasion as well, after a tough day or not-so-tough day. And some people ONLY like a breezy read or TV show. Usually, there is something for everyone on the various best-seller lists. And one man’s literature is another man’s dreck. The vanity Web sites, mostly from the large publishers, are vanity Web sites by my definition because the publishers don’t market their Web sites and more than they market the books they publish. Actually, it’s worse with the Web sites. That may change, however, as publishers find they MUST tap into the Web market, or continue to lose ground to others who do.

]]> by: Frazer Dobson http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/04/20/wicked-witch-survey-results-publishing-industry-creates-vanity-web-sites-authors-twist-in-the-wind-readers-really-do-read/#comment-332 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:25:39 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/04/20/wicked-witch-survey-results-publishing-industry-creates-vanity-web-sites-authors-twist-in-the-wind-readers-really-do-read/#comment-332 Andrew--King is not prolific enough for such things to worry me. But surely you've noticed that James Patterson manages four a year like clockwork (and his coauthors have complained enough that now they share credit), as does Danielle Steele. And let's not even mention Nora Roberts. Andrew–King is not prolific enough for such things to worry me. But surely you’ve noticed that James Patterson manages four a year like clockwork (and his coauthors have complained enough that now they share credit), as does Danielle Steele. And let’s not even mention Nora Roberts.

]]> by: Andrew O'Hara http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/04/20/wicked-witch-survey-results-publishing-industry-creates-vanity-web-sites-authors-twist-in-the-wind-readers-really-do-read/#comment-293 Tue, 25 Apr 2006 04:01:44 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/04/20/wicked-witch-survey-results-publishing-industry-creates-vanity-web-sites-authors-twist-in-the-wind-readers-really-do-read/#comment-293 So I have to ask another of those questions that isn't supposed to be asked in polite circles, though. I was in the library the other day (can't afford the Starbuck coffee) and noticed one of the above writers--heck, could have been King, or Clancey, whoever--who had a seventy five foot shelf with nothing but their own books. I'm guessing--someone tell me I'm wrong--that these repeated best selling writers are not Jessica Fletchers with typewriters at their kitchen tables. I'm guessing they have a staff of writers (like some "painters") cranking out their books by assigned chapters as they give the general guidance on the plot, etc--a committee effort, in other words, with final proofing by the, um, author. Are there many of you/us that, having read the gazillionth one by one of these guys, couldn't begin to mimic their style? This would, of course, be a horrible secret to ever get out..........but I have five bucks (well, on payday, anyway) that says it's a strong possibility--but kept very quiet. So call me a heretic to suggest such a thing... So I have to ask another of those questions that isn’t supposed to be asked in polite circles, though. I was in the library the other day (can’t afford the Starbuck coffee) and noticed one of the above writers–heck, could have been King, or Clancey, whoever–who had a seventy five foot shelf with nothing but their own books.

I’m guessing–someone tell me I’m wrong–that these repeated best selling writers are not Jessica Fletchers with typewriters at their kitchen tables. I’m guessing they have a staff of writers (like some “painters”) cranking out their books by assigned chapters as they give the general guidance on the plot, etc–a committee effort, in other words, with final proofing by the, um, author. Are there many of you/us that, having read the gazillionth one by one of these guys, couldn’t begin to mimic their style? This would, of course, be a horrible secret to ever get out……….but I have five bucks (well, on payday, anyway) that says it’s a strong possibility–but kept very quiet. So call me a heretic to suggest such a thing…

]]> by: Frazer http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/04/20/wicked-witch-survey-results-publishing-industry-creates-vanity-web-sites-authors-twist-in-the-wind-readers-really-do-read/#comment-290 Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:10:17 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/04/20/wicked-witch-survey-results-publishing-industry-creates-vanity-web-sites-authors-twist-in-the-wind-readers-really-do-read/#comment-290 I'm with Dave on the Stephen King thing. The man can write rings around many of his contemporaries. I was glad to see him come back after announcing that the Dark Tower (the only King I have no interest in) was the last. I'm about halfway through his newest one, "Lisey's Story," (due in October--hey, there has to be some perks to being a bookseller!), and while "Cell" was enjoyable but forgettable, I'm really finding this one interesting, resonant, and compelling. BUT he has one flaw in that he'll overuse a certain phrase his characters do TO DEATH. Worse, near the beginning of "Lisey's Story," he makes fun of Southern characters and accents for page after agonizing page of phonetical dialect ("puff-ickly huh-yooge," etc.). I mean, Steve, some of us Southern folk think Maine Yankees talk funny too. But keep an eye out for this one--Scribner is being unusually generous with the galley, and thus far it's his most compelling novel in many years. And other commercial stuff I'll cop to: I never miss a Carl Hiaasen, I love cheap pulp horror from the 30s to now, and my wife Sally (who is ten times the bookseller I am) reads commercial and good indiscriminately, a true literary omnivore. But that's easy when you can read a book a day. I’m with Dave on the Stephen King thing. The man can write rings around many of his contemporaries. I was glad to see him come back after announcing that the Dark Tower (the only King I have no interest in) was the last. I’m about halfway through his newest one, “Lisey’s Story,” (due in October–hey, there has to be some perks to being a bookseller!), and while “Cell” was enjoyable but forgettable, I’m really finding this one interesting, resonant, and compelling. BUT he has one flaw in that he’ll overuse a certain phrase his characters do TO DEATH. Worse, near the beginning of “Lisey’s Story,” he makes fun of Southern characters and accents for page after agonizing page of phonetical dialect (”puff-ickly huh-yooge,” etc.). I mean, Steve, some of us Southern folk think Maine Yankees talk funny too. But keep an eye out for this one–Scribner is being unusually generous with the galley, and thus far it’s his most compelling novel in many years.

And other commercial stuff I’ll cop to: I never miss a Carl Hiaasen, I love cheap pulp horror from the 30s to now, and my wife Sally (who is ten times the bookseller I am) reads commercial and good indiscriminately, a true literary omnivore. But that’s easy when you can read a book a day.

]]> by: Dave Newton http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/04/20/wicked-witch-survey-results-publishing-industry-creates-vanity-web-sites-authors-twist-in-the-wind-readers-really-do-read/#comment-277 Mon, 24 Apr 2006 05:32:15 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/04/20/wicked-witch-survey-results-publishing-industry-creates-vanity-web-sites-authors-twist-in-the-wind-readers-really-do-read/#comment-277 After doing a little more research--that I should have done earlier--I discovered what the rest of you must know <img src="http://www.marconidreams.com/images/DaveSketch-s.jpg" align="right" />already: Mr. Landi has a career as a publishing person behind him--he's been an editor. He's connected. I suppose it's possible for one of us-the-unconnected to acquire the knowledge to go into book publishing for ourselves. But it surely helps that Val is already known to those beyond the slush readers and receptionists. And that somewhere in there he signed with a major agent. You've done an impressive job of mounting a novel, sir. It's apparently a bit more socially acceptable in NY for you to control your book. The lesson? There are no shortcuts. First, write a great book. Second, prepare a Scanlon-ized proposal package. Third, don't forget your SASE. After doing a little more research–that I should have done earlier–I discovered what the rest of you must know

already: Mr. Landi has a career as a publishing person behind him--he’s been an editor. He’s connected. I suppose it’s possible for one of us-the-unconnected to acquire the knowledge to go into book publishing for ourselves. But it surely helps that Val is already known to those beyond the slush readers and receptionists. And that somewhere in there he signed with a major agent. You’ve done an impressive job of mounting a novel, sir. It’s apparently a bit more socially acceptable in NY for you to control your book. The lesson? There are no shortcuts. First, write a great book. Second, prepare a Scanlon-ized proposal package. Third, don’t forget your SASE.

]]> by: Anonymous http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/04/20/wicked-witch-survey-results-publishing-industry-creates-vanity-web-sites-authors-twist-in-the-wind-readers-really-do-read/#comment-273 Sun, 23 Apr 2006 02:40:52 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/04/20/wicked-witch-survey-results-publishing-industry-creates-vanity-web-sites-authors-twist-in-the-wind-readers-really-do-read/#comment-273 I see Lynne has rightly opened some introspection and even guilt amongst us when it comes to our admissions of frivolous reading. I felt quite awful because my admitted addiction to Wolf's 'Naked Justice" series (ranked at 377,000), might be mistaken for a Mr. John Mortimer's book by the same title, which is only standing at 2,128,00--presumably because his book foolishly lacks the superheroines in bondage at the hands of the horny apes. As someone said, we must do something about all these duplicate titles. I'm almost afraid to buy anything, now. I see Lynne has rightly opened some introspection and even guilt amongst us when it comes to our admissions of frivolous reading. I felt quite awful because my admitted addiction to Wolf’s ‘Naked Justice” series (ranked at 377,000), might be mistaken for a Mr. John Mortimer’s book by the same title, which is only standing at 2,128,00–presumably because his book foolishly lacks the superheroines in bondage at the hands of the horny apes. As someone said, we must do something about all these duplicate titles. I’m almost afraid to buy anything, now.

]]> by: Lorra Laven http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/04/20/wicked-witch-survey-results-publishing-industry-creates-vanity-web-sites-authors-twist-in-the-wind-readers-really-do-read/#comment-269 Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:42:57 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/04/20/wicked-witch-survey-results-publishing-industry-creates-vanity-web-sites-authors-twist-in-the-wind-readers-really-do-read/#comment-269 A quick correction to my list of favorite thriller writers: I should have said Daniel Silva (NOT DeSilva) - his protagonist is an art restorer in Venice/covert operative. Or maybe all that Latin fried my brain. A quick correction to my list of favorite thriller writers: I should have said Daniel Silva (NOT DeSilva) - his protagonist is an art restorer in Venice/covert operative. Or maybe all that Latin fried my brain.

]]> by: Kitty http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/04/20/wicked-witch-survey-results-publishing-industry-creates-vanity-web-sites-authors-twist-in-the-wind-readers-really-do-read/#comment-267 Fri, 21 Apr 2006 21:51:35 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/04/20/wicked-witch-survey-results-publishing-industry-creates-vanity-web-sites-authors-twist-in-the-wind-readers-really-do-read/#comment-267 I just donated (literally) a trunkload of books to our local library. About half were mysteries/thrillers, all of which I had read, and the rest were "shoulds" -- literary books I should have read but didn't. I agree with Shelley H: "I think my life is too short and my time too short to try and read books that don’t hold my attention." I just donated (literally) a trunkload of books to our local library. About half were mysteries/thrillers, all of which I had read, and the rest were “shoulds” — literary books I should have read but didn’t. I agree with Shelley H: “I think my life is too short and my time too short to try and read books that don’t hold my attention.”

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