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Comments on: Why The Memory Keeper’s Daughter was a Shoo-In for a Best Seller. Why One Book Takes Off through Word-of-Mouth and Others Fizzle. Show Me…The Hook! http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/09/06/why-the-memory-keepers-daughter-was-a-shoe-in-for-a-best-seller-why-one-book-takes-off-through-word-of-mouth-and-others-fizzle-show-me%e2%80%a6the-hook/ Tendentious comments and cranky critiques by Lynne W. Scanlon P.E.A. (Publisher/Editor/Author) Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:09:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0 by: Susan Swan http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/09/06/why-the-memory-keepers-daughter-was-a-shoe-in-for-a-best-seller-why-one-book-takes-off-through-word-of-mouth-and-others-fizzle-show-me%e2%80%a6the-hook/#comment-30317 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:14:05 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/09/06/why-the-memory-keepers-daughter-was-a-shoe-in-for-a-best-seller-why-one-book-takes-off-through-word-of-mouth-and-others-fizzle-show-me%e2%80%a6the-hook/#comment-30317 I am beginning a memoir, I'd like to be another Burroughs or Sedaris except that I'm a straight white girl (except for one regrettable, hilarious. drunk girl girl experience). Hook? Working Class girl makes it big in academia, succumbs to divorce, drugs and depression by both unethical men and overprescribing doctors and my own escape from realizing I'm living my father's dream, not my own, and finally, understanding that coming from the working class is something to revel in, to laugh about. To know that there isn't a big happy ending because we live in the present, informed by the past, shaped by goals, but even when you think you have beat the big bad wolf, believe me, you have not. Chapters about my English chair trying to beat me up. Whole chapters about my dad farting. Whole chapters about my next door neighbor's out of control pubic hair. Chapters about neglect and abuse, and how to survive that with humor. Breaking that chain of abuse with good will, a lack of bitterness and rage, and again, much laughter, self recrimination, and taking a step forward and two steps back. Whole chapters about a white trash funeral. Tentative title: white trash in the moonlight. Basic story: how does a geeky, silent A+ poor girl from the working class become a full-blown big time academic, tattooed from head to toe, become addicted to drugs and near death, give up the entire academic pursuit, and survive two marriages, three children, and a family which is so chock-full of ridiculous stories that I could probably write about my life forever. Unlike "The Memory Keeper's Daughter" or "The Glass Castle," I will not write about overcoming, but will write about living. The reason Burroughs and Sedaris succeed is their unflinching self analysis, humor, and nostalgia, even when connected to terrible things. I can do that, and I can do it well. I have enough stories for about fifteen books. I'm stuck, now, at how to begin: themed book, or introduction to me with a varied mix of stories. Whaddya think? I am beginning a memoir, I’d like to be another Burroughs or Sedaris except that I’m a straight white girl (except for one regrettable, hilarious. drunk girl girl experience). Hook? Working Class girl makes it big in academia, succumbs to divorce, drugs and depression by both unethical men and overprescribing doctors and my own escape from realizing I’m living my father’s dream, not my own, and finally, understanding that coming from the working class is something to revel in, to laugh about. To know that there isn’t a big happy ending because we live in the present, informed by the past, shaped by goals, but even when you think you have beat the big bad wolf, believe me, you have not. Chapters about my English chair trying to beat me up. Whole chapters about my dad farting. Whole chapters about my next door neighbor’s out of control pubic hair. Chapters about neglect and abuse, and how to survive that with humor. Breaking that chain of abuse with good will, a lack of bitterness and rage, and again, much laughter, self recrimination, and taking a step forward and two steps back. Whole chapters about a white trash funeral. Tentative title: white trash in the moonlight. Basic story: how does a geeky, silent A+ poor girl from the working class become a full-blown big time academic, tattooed from head to toe, become addicted to drugs and near death, give up the entire academic pursuit, and survive two marriages, three children, and a family which is so chock-full of ridiculous stories that I could probably write about my life forever. Unlike “The Memory Keeper’s Daughter” or “The Glass Castle,” I will not write about overcoming, but will write about living. The reason Burroughs and Sedaris succeed is their unflinching self analysis, humor, and nostalgia, even when connected to terrible things. I can do that, and I can do it well. I have enough stories for about fifteen books. I’m stuck, now, at how to begin: themed book, or introduction to me with a varied mix of stories. Whaddya think?

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by: Edward Champion’s Return of the Reluctant » Roundup http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/09/06/why-the-memory-keepers-daughter-was-a-shoe-in-for-a-best-seller-why-one-book-takes-off-through-word-of-mouth-and-others-fizzle-show-me%e2%80%a6the-hook/#comment-1851 Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:32:26 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/09/06/why-the-memory-keepers-daughter-was-a-shoe-in-for-a-best-seller-why-one-book-takes-off-through-word-of-mouth-and-others-fizzle-show-me%e2%80%a6the-hook/#comment-1851 [...] Is a bestseller guided by a hook? The Publishing Contrarian opines that Kim Edwards’ The Memory Keeper’s Daughter would have sold like parkas in Juneau regardless of its literary value. [...] […] Is a bestseller guided by a hook? The Publishing Contrarian opines that Kim Edwards’ The Memory Keeper’s Daughter would have sold like parkas in Juneau regardless of its literary value. […]

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by: Bill Peschel http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/09/06/why-the-memory-keepers-daughter-was-a-shoe-in-for-a-best-seller-why-one-book-takes-off-through-word-of-mouth-and-others-fizzle-show-me%e2%80%a6the-hook/#comment-1850 Mon, 18 Sep 2006 15:45:13 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/09/06/why-the-memory-keepers-daughter-was-a-shoe-in-for-a-best-seller-why-one-book-takes-off-through-word-of-mouth-and-others-fizzle-show-me%e2%80%a6the-hook/#comment-1850 <strong><img style="width: 108px; height: 108px" height="108" src="http://www.planetpeschel.com/Weblog/art/aboutme.jpg" width="108" align="right" />You Gotta Have A Gimmick...</strong> These days, it&apos;s not enough to be published. You got to have a platform, an audience, something that separates you from the rest of the pack. Or, as Lynn Scanlon puts it at The Publishing Contrarian: A Hook! If your story has a child with Down&apo... You Gotta Have A Gimmick…

These days, it's not enough to be published. You got to have a platform, an audience, something that separates you from the rest of the pack. Or, as Lynn Scanlon puts it at The Publishing Contrarian: A Hook! If your story has a child with Down&apo…

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by: Therese http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/09/06/why-the-memory-keepers-daughter-was-a-shoe-in-for-a-best-seller-why-one-book-takes-off-through-word-of-mouth-and-others-fizzle-show-me%e2%80%a6the-hook/#comment-1845 Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:43:09 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/09/06/why-the-memory-keepers-daughter-was-a-shoe-in-for-a-best-seller-why-one-book-takes-off-through-word-of-mouth-and-others-fizzle-show-me%e2%80%a6the-hook/#comment-1845 Thanks, Lynne--guess we think alike, because <strong>your advice matches what I did when the first round of submissions was finished.</strong> One of the frustrations I met with was the apparent "rule" that <strong>once an editor at a particular imprint/house has passed, an agent can't approach a different editor there.</strong> (Not that we'd have necessarily gotten further if we could approach the couple of additional prospects I unearthed.) Because I'm realistic and optimistic, with a sprinkle of fatalism thrown in for good measure, I'm taking my rejection as an opportunity to make the novel better (and used what I learned to help craft the new one). Several editors said they would read anything I write next, which means I at least opened some doors! By the way, thanks for your efforts with this site. Good advice and industry info is invaluable to every writer who's looking to have a writing career, not just a book in print. <strong><em>Update November 16, 2006 From the Wicked Witch of Publishing (TM): Therese's novel, Souvenir, has been picked up. Go to her </em></strong><a href="http://theresefowler.blogspot.com"><strong><em>blog </em></strong></a><strong><em>for details!</em></strong> Thanks, Lynne–guess we think alike, because your advice matches what I did when the first round of submissions was finished. One of the frustrations I met with was the apparent “rule” that once an editor at a particular imprint/house has passed, an agent can’t approach a different editor there.

(Not that we’d have necessarily gotten further if we could approach the couple of additional prospects I unearthed.)

Because I’m realistic and optimistic, with a sprinkle of fatalism thrown in for good measure, I’m taking my rejection as an opportunity to make the novel better (and used what I learned to help craft the new one). Several editors said they would read anything I write next, which means I at least opened some doors!

By the way, thanks for your efforts with this site. Good advice and industry info is invaluable to every writer who’s looking to have a writing career, not just a book in print.

Update November 16, 2006 From the Wicked Witch of Publishing ™: Therese’s novel, Souvenir, has been picked up. Go to her blog for details!

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by: Therese http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/09/06/why-the-memory-keepers-daughter-was-a-shoe-in-for-a-best-seller-why-one-book-takes-off-through-word-of-mouth-and-others-fizzle-show-me%e2%80%a6the-hook/#comment-1843 Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:08:37 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/09/06/why-the-memory-keepers-daughter-was-a-shoe-in-for-a-best-seller-why-one-book-takes-off-through-word-of-mouth-and-others-fizzle-show-me%e2%80%a6the-hook/#comment-1843 Lynne: This is a "hook" topic for your site--got me here for the first time (via Pod-dy Mouth, which I found via Miss Snark...)! For what it's worth, <strong>I am an agented novelist with an MFA, whose first novel almost-but-didn't-quite sell.</strong> <strong>It has a strong hook, which made it easy for my agent to shop it to many big houses--so why didn't it sell?</strong> That's one of the mysteries of the biz. Rejection letters complimented the work consistently, but were inconsistent on the reasons for "no." One was that the book felt "too quiet" for that house; one was that the ed. had recently acquired a book a little too similar... Primarily, though, I think I need to improve the representation of certain characters, alter relationships a little--give the reader a better emotional "hook" in addition to the topical ones. So I shall rewrite. Meantime I've written a new novel that takes full advantage of the "hook" strategy once again. If there is a formula for an unknown novelist to craft a novel with the potential to ignite, IMO it's this: <strong>Quality storytelling Empathetic characters A hook, or hooks A satisfying ending</strong> -in that order. But ALWAYS including all four ingredients. Note that I don't say this guarantees success. Only that it ups the odds. My agent is reading my new work, and <strong>I am beginning to recraft the first novel to better fit the "formula."</strong> There's no "One Right Way," so the best we authors can do is stack the odds in our favor while crafting stories we care about. Writing professionals (as opposed to what I'll call "literary artists") understand that books are products for readers and write accordingly. Some authors consider this "selling out," but I beg to differ.<strong> Book publishing is a BUSINESS, and THAT is the bottom line. If you don't want to be business oriented, self-publish and be content.</strong> As for me, I am determined to write high quality, reader-friendly novels that I hope will mean something to the people who read them. Incidentally, I agree completely that what qualifies as a phenomenal read for one person may be a poor fit for another--this applies not only to genre but to quality of writing. Variety, as they say, is the spice of life! Best for authors to quit whining and just focus on their particular target readers. Maybe I'm naive, but I think there are enough readers to go around. <em>Note from the Wicked Witch of Publishing (TM): Therese, thanks so much for your wise comments.<strong> I wouldn't rewrite my book just yet.</strong> If I were you, I would do a little independent research. I'd find books of a similar genre in my local bookstore and then track down those editors. <strong>Ask your literary agent if he/she knows the editors. If he/she doesn't know the editors or have contacts in their publishing companies, then the job is not done. </strong></em> <strong><em>Update November 16, 2006 From the Wicked Witch of Publishing ™: Therese’s novel, Souvenir, has been picked up. Go to her </em></strong><a href="http://theresefowler.blogspot.com/"><strong><em><font color="#000066">blog </font></em></strong></a><strong><em>for details!</em></strong> Lynne:

This is a “hook” topic for your site–got me here for the first time (via Pod-dy Mouth, which I found via Miss Snark…)!

For what it’s worth, I am an agented novelist with an MFA, whose first novel almost-but-didn’t-quite sell. It has a strong hook, which made it easy for my agent to shop it to many big houses–so why didn’t it sell?

That’s one of the mysteries of the biz. Rejection letters complimented the work consistently, but were inconsistent on the reasons for “no.” One was that the book felt “too quiet” for that house; one was that the ed. had recently acquired a book a little too similar…

Primarily, though, I think I need to improve the representation of certain characters, alter relationships a little–give the reader a better emotional “hook” in addition to the topical ones. So I shall rewrite.

Meantime I’ve written a new novel that takes full advantage of the “hook” strategy once again. If there is a formula for an unknown novelist to craft a novel with the potential to ignite, IMO it’s this:

Quality storytelling
Empathetic characters
A hook, or hooks
A satisfying ending

-in that order. But ALWAYS including all four ingredients.

Note that I don’t say this guarantees success. Only that it ups the odds.

My agent is reading my new work, and I am beginning to recraft the first novel to better fit the “formula.” There’s no “One Right Way,” so the best we authors can do is stack the odds in our favor while crafting stories we care about. Writing professionals (as opposed to what I’ll call “literary artists”) understand that books are products for readers and write accordingly.

Some authors consider this “selling out,” but I beg to differ. Book publishing is a BUSINESS, and THAT is the bottom line. If you don’t want to be business oriented, self-publish and be content.

As for me, I am determined to write high quality, reader-friendly novels that I hope will mean something to the people who read them.

Incidentally, I agree completely that what qualifies as a phenomenal read for one person may be a poor fit for another–this applies not only to genre but to quality of writing. Variety, as they say, is the spice of life!

Best for authors to quit whining and just focus on their particular target readers. Maybe I’m naive, but I think there are enough readers to go around.

Note from the Wicked Witch of Publishing ™: Therese, thanks so much for your wise comments. I wouldn’t rewrite my book just yet. If I were you, I would do a little independent research. I’d find books of a similar genre in my local bookstore and then track down those editors. Ask your literary agent if he/she knows the editors. If he/she doesn’t know the editors or have contacts in their publishing companies, then the job is not done.

Update November 16, 2006 From the Wicked Witch of Publishing ™: Therese’s novel, Souvenir, has been picked up. Go to her blog for details!

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by: DC Stanfa http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/09/06/why-the-memory-keepers-daughter-was-a-shoe-in-for-a-best-seller-why-one-book-takes-off-through-word-of-mouth-and-others-fizzle-show-me%e2%80%a6the-hook/#comment-1836 Tue, 12 Sep 2006 14:09:24 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/09/06/why-the-memory-keepers-daughter-was-a-shoe-in-for-a-best-seller-why-one-book-takes-off-through-word-of-mouth-and-others-fizzle-show-me%e2%80%a6the-hook/#comment-1836 The book by the female pilot is titled The World At My Feet, by Cpt. Meryl Getline. <strong>She, like me, paid $6,000 to attend The National Publicity Summit and get professional coaching--including perfecting your pitch, and your HOOK to the media (note that these hooks are developed after our books were published, so we're back-end hookers).</strong> We then got 2 1/2 minutes with major TV show producers and magazine editors. The event hosts call it speed dating for journalists. It is expensive, but if you have a compelling or entertaining story, with ideas for show topics you just might get on The View (Oprah's producers don't attend) without paying a publicist, like Meryl did. Almost all of the wannabees at this conference were non-fiction writers, who proclaimed to be experts on something. I claim to be an expert on fun, and its by-product, trouble. <strong>According to the folks at the National Publicity Summit, it's not enough to get me in a magazine or on national television. So, they helped me customize my pitch, and the hook for specific media. </strong>And while one producer loved "Is there too much drama in your life? I have five ways to lose the drama and lighten up your life." It would fall flat with another. Yes, their is an air of prostitution around this whole messy publishing business. But, having spent 25 years selling empty boxes, I find myself bending over just a bit more trying to sell some filled with MY book. <strong>As long as we can look ourselves in the mirror--hopefully in the green room, I say go for it.</strong> Of course, speaking from experience, you might want to steer clear of Jerry Springer. Lynne, although <strong>I am still awaiting the "big" break,</strong> I did get booked on quite a few radio shows, developed a beach book hook (which is not contrived, as the beach is a passion, and a lot of my stories take place at beaches), and made some very valuable contacts at the Summit. However, the better pay-off came from networking at the Erma Bombeck Workshop for a total of $350--at which, it wasn't about the hook or the money. It was all about the funny. <em>Note from the Wicked Witch of Publishing (TM): $6000! Yikes. I'm upping my rates! <strong>For a manuscript that has been repeatedly rejected, what choice do you have but to rethink your query letter and synopsis? It's nuts to keep sending the same package out.</strong> Back-end hooking entails rethinking your pitch along the lines I recommended and then reworking your query letter if not your book. Those hooks may well be in the book already, just not emphasized correctly. Thanks for dropping by again. </em> The book by the female pilot is titled The World At My Feet, by Cpt. Meryl Getline. She, like me, paid $6,000 to attend The National Publicity Summit and get professional coaching–including perfecting your pitch, and your HOOK to the media (note that these hooks are developed after our books were published, so we’re back-end hookers). We then got 2 1/2 minutes with major TV show producers and magazine editors. The event hosts call it speed dating for journalists. It is expensive, but if you have a compelling or entertaining story, with ideas for show topics you just might get on The View (Oprah’s producers don’t attend) without paying a publicist, like Meryl did.

Almost all of the wannabees at this conference were non-fiction writers, who proclaimed to be experts on something. I claim to be an expert on fun, and its by-product, trouble. According to the folks at the National Publicity Summit, it’s not enough to get me in a magazine or on national television. So, they helped me customize my pitch, and the hook for specific media. And while one producer loved “Is there too much drama in your life? I have five ways to lose the drama and lighten up your life.” It would fall flat with another.

Yes, their is an air of prostitution around this whole messy publishing business. But, having spent 25 years selling empty boxes, I find myself bending over just a bit more trying to sell some filled with MY book. As long as we can look ourselves in the mirror–hopefully in the green room, I say go for it. Of course, speaking from experience, you might want to steer clear of Jerry Springer.

Lynne, although I am still awaiting the “big” break, I did get booked on quite a few radio shows, developed a beach book hook (which is not contrived, as the beach is a passion, and a lot of my stories take place at beaches), and made some very valuable contacts at the Summit. However, the better pay-off came from networking at the Erma Bombeck Workshop for a total of $350–at which, it wasn’t about the hook or the money. It was all about the funny.

Note from the Wicked Witch of Publishing ™: $6000! Yikes. I’m upping my rates! For a manuscript that has been repeatedly rejected, what choice do you have but to rethink your query letter and synopsis? It’s nuts to keep sending the same package out. Back-end hooking entails rethinking your pitch along the lines I recommended and then reworking your query letter if not your book. Those hooks may well be in the book already, just not emphasized correctly. Thanks for dropping by again. 

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by: Caroline Smailes http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/09/06/why-the-memory-keepers-daughter-was-a-shoe-in-for-a-best-seller-why-one-book-takes-off-through-word-of-mouth-and-others-fizzle-show-me%e2%80%a6the-hook/#comment-1828 Mon, 11 Sep 2006 08:32:21 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/09/06/why-the-memory-keepers-daughter-was-a-shoe-in-for-a-best-seller-why-one-book-takes-off-through-word-of-mouth-and-others-fizzle-show-me%e2%80%a6the-hook/#comment-1828 I have only just found this site. I am now bookmarking and placing it on my daily route. Just what I need, practical advice that really requires a notebook and pencil alongside the reading. Thanks Cx I have only just found this site.
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by: Peter L. Winkler http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/09/06/why-the-memory-keepers-daughter-was-a-shoe-in-for-a-best-seller-why-one-book-takes-off-through-word-of-mouth-and-others-fizzle-show-me%e2%80%a6the-hook/#comment-1827 Mon, 11 Sep 2006 08:17:18 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/09/06/why-the-memory-keepers-daughter-was-a-shoe-in-for-a-best-seller-why-one-book-takes-off-through-word-of-mouth-and-others-fizzle-show-me%e2%80%a6the-hook/#comment-1827 I'd never heard the story attributed to Bennett Cerf.  <img style="width: 122px; height: 83px" height="83" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1720/467/1600/PeterThumbnail.0.jpg" width="122" align="right" /> Instead, it supposedly took place between the editor of a general interest magazine, like Reader's Digest, and one of his regular writers. Editor: You know what the most popular subjects for magazine articles are? Writer: No, what? Editor: Lincoln, mothers, doctors, and dogs. Writer: How about an article about Lincoln's mother's doctor's dog? I’d never heard the story attributed to Bennett Cerf. 

Instead, it supposedly took place between the editor of a general interest magazine, like Reader’s Digest, and one of his regular writers.

Editor: You know what the most popular subjects for magazine articles are?

Writer: No, what?

Editor: Lincoln, mothers, doctors, and dogs.

Writer: How about an article about Lincoln’s mother’s doctor’s dog?

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by: Peggy Payne http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/09/06/why-the-memory-keepers-daughter-was-a-shoe-in-for-a-best-seller-why-one-book-takes-off-through-word-of-mouth-and-others-fizzle-show-me%e2%80%a6the-hook/#comment-1808 Fri, 08 Sep 2006 18:35:03 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/09/06/why-the-memory-keepers-daughter-was-a-shoe-in-for-a-best-seller-why-one-book-takes-off-through-word-of-mouth-and-others-fizzle-show-me%e2%80%a6the-hook/#comment-1808 I can hardly imagine a more enticing topic than how to break out your novel. No wonder there are so many comments. I heard in a seminar recently about a woman who self-published a book on being a pilot. She then got a consultant to tell her how to find a hook in it. <strong>The hook came finally from the things that people ask her most when they hear about her job.</strong> The one she chose was what does the pilot mean when he says, "we're running into some turbulence." She got on major national TV to talk about that topic, and sold a lot of copies of her book. <em>Note from the Wicked Witch of Publishing (TM): Another hook is that she is a woman AND a pilot. How many moms or dads or aunts or uncles would give that book to a teenage girl? I would. </em> I can hardly imagine a more enticing topic than how to break out your novel. No wonder there are so many comments.

I heard in a seminar recently about a woman who self-published a book on being a pilot. She then got a consultant to tell her how to find a hook in it. The hook came finally from the things that people ask her most when they hear about her job. The one she chose was what does the pilot mean when he says, “we’re running into some turbulence.” She got on major national TV to talk about that topic, and sold a lot of copies of her book.

Note from the Wicked Witch of Publishing ™: Another hook is that she is a woman AND a pilot. How many moms or dads or aunts or uncles would give that book to a teenage girl? I would. 

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by: Big Bad Book Blog » Blog Archive » Big Bad Book Blog Links 09-08-2006 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/09/06/why-the-memory-keepers-daughter-was-a-shoe-in-for-a-best-seller-why-one-book-takes-off-through-word-of-mouth-and-others-fizzle-show-me%e2%80%a6the-hook/#comment-1806 Fri, 08 Sep 2006 14:39:13 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/09/06/why-the-memory-keepers-daughter-was-a-shoe-in-for-a-best-seller-why-one-book-takes-off-through-word-of-mouth-and-others-fizzle-show-me%e2%80%a6the-hook/#comment-1806 [...] The Publishing Contrarian: Discussions about Dramatic Change in the Business and Operation of Publishing &#8220;Having a good hook and trumpeting it as clearly and appealingly as you possibly can, greases the wheels every step of the way.&#8221; [...] […] The Publishing Contrarian: Discussions about Dramatic Change in the Business and Operation of Publishing “Having a good hook and trumpeting it as clearly and appealingly as you possibly can, greases the wheels every step of the way.” […]

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