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Comments on: Wicked Witch of Publishing Swaps Broomstick for Semi-Automatic. Christmas List Includes Hair-Raising Thrillers by Samuel Huntington, Bernard Lewis, Daniel Pipes, Robert Spencer and Mark Steyn — and Ammo. http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/11/20/wicked-witch-of-publishing-swaps-broomstick-for-semi-automatic-christmas-list-includes-hair-raising-thrillers-by-samuel-huntington-bernard-lewis-daniel-pipes-robert-spencer-and-mark-steyn-and-ammo/ Tendentious comments and cranky critiques by Lynne W. Scanlon P.E.A. (Publisher/Editor/Author) Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:38:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0 by: lastofadyingbreed http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/11/20/wicked-witch-of-publishing-swaps-broomstick-for-semi-automatic-christmas-list-includes-hair-raising-thrillers-by-samuel-huntington-bernard-lewis-daniel-pipes-robert-spencer-and-mark-steyn-and-ammo/#comment-3620 Thu, 30 Nov 2006 15:53:41 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/11/20/wicked-witch-of-publishing-swaps-broomstick-for-semi-automatic-christmas-list-includes-hair-raising-thrillers-by-samuel-huntington-bernard-lewis-daniel-pipes-robert-spencer-and-mark-steyn-and-ammo/#comment-3620 Lilly! Many thanks for your reply. I agree with your sentiment. Every needless human death in our global economy is a waste of potential prosperity for all to whom that person is connected. Each Iraqi death perpetuates an imperative for vendetta which takes the deceased's whole family &#38; social network farther from a peaceful, stable condition in which foreign &#38; domestic investors would be willing to place their confidence. Each American death in any of our current overseas conflicts is a horrible waste as well, but I think those who are still sticking with this rare and, yes, wobbly-off-mission thread were hoping for less of a gnashing of teeth conversation, which influences no one's thinking and leaves us nothing to talk about, and more of a books-inspired talk about how attitudes can be formed toward a threat to global security that far too many voting taxpayers fail to take seriously. The first step we could take together away from both shrill and dismissive is to read words as if they meant what they say. I find no indictments, above, of "all" Muslims, and no one here knows cathy, or you, personally. cathy's husband, to me, is the evocation of some words on a screen that she puts there, and I have no reason to disbelieve her when she says he's a good man. That quotidian discussion, though, does not change the facts of our national security and foreign policy conversation, about which the above mentioned reading is but a small sample: Islam is the common requirement among mass-murder franchises who threaten global security. I do find several posts above where people who read books are trying to apply what they've read to the task of parsing out the mass-murder franchisees, who require Muslim membership, from all followers of Islam. I also find several crucial unaddressed questions, the most timely of which is "where is the broad-based internally-generated Muslim condemnation of terror tactics?" Even the under-reported <i>Open Letter to His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI</i> signed by 38 Islamic authorities, fails to condemn violence, and defines "jihad" to include the use of "force" when necessary, whenever that is. In other words, the Grand Muftis of Turkey, Egypt, Russia, Syria, Kosovo, Bosnia and Uzbekistan, are leaving an open doctrinal loophole for terrorists as recently as October 12th. To your points, Lilly and cathy, I also find no advance of the discussion based on geopolitical interest; no national security-oriented acknowledgement of the centrality of religion and energy to our current foreign policy (the unifying theme of those 21 books that started all this). One very excellent thinker who is actually writing about attainable, sustainable solutions to these issues, which involve nothing that could be construed as Abrahamist-bashing, is: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Natural-Advantage-Nations-Opportunities-Innovation/dp/1844073408/sr=8-3/qid=1164899129/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3/104-4004803-9339910?ie=UTF8&#38;s=books" rel="nofollow">The Natural Advantage of Nations: Business Opportunities, Innovation and Governance in the 21st Century</a> who discusses several refreshingly industry-minded and economically rigorous energy migration tactics which could be adopted immediately, at: http://www.rmi.org/ I sign off, still hopeful to think together, and still standing by. Lilly!

Many thanks for your reply. I agree with your sentiment. Every needless human death in our global economy is a waste of potential prosperity for all to whom that person is connected. Each Iraqi death perpetuates an imperative for vendetta which takes the deceased’s whole family & social network farther from a peaceful, stable condition in which foreign & domestic investors would be willing to place their confidence.

Each American death in any of our current overseas conflicts is a horrible waste as well, but I think those who are still sticking with this rare and, yes, wobbly-off-mission thread were hoping for less of a gnashing of teeth conversation, which influences no one’s thinking and leaves us nothing to talk about, and more of a books-inspired talk about how attitudes can be formed toward a threat to global security that far too many voting taxpayers fail to take seriously.

The first step we could take together away from both shrill and dismissive is to read words as if they meant what they say. I find no indictments, above, of “all” Muslims, and no one here knows cathy, or you, personally. cathy’s husband, to me, is the evocation of some words on a screen that she puts there, and I have no reason to disbelieve her when she says he’s a good man.

That quotidian discussion, though, does not change the facts of our national security and foreign policy conversation, about which the above mentioned reading is but a small sample: Islam is the common requirement among mass-murder franchises who threaten global security.

I do find several posts above where people who read books are trying to apply what they’ve read to the task of parsing out the mass-murder franchisees, who require Muslim membership, from all followers of Islam. I also find several crucial unaddressed questions, the most timely of which is “where is the broad-based internally-generated Muslim condemnation of terror tactics?” Even the under-reported Open Letter to His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI signed by 38 Islamic authorities, fails to condemn violence, and defines “jihad” to include the use of “force” when necessary, whenever that is. In other words, the Grand Muftis of Turkey, Egypt, Russia, Syria, Kosovo, Bosnia and Uzbekistan, are leaving an open doctrinal loophole for terrorists as recently as October 12th.

To your points, Lilly and cathy, I also find no advance of the discussion based on geopolitical interest; no national security-oriented acknowledgement of the centrality of religion and energy to our current foreign policy (the unifying theme of those 21 books that started all this).

One very excellent thinker who is actually writing about attainable, sustainable solutions to these issues, which involve nothing that could be construed as Abrahamist-bashing, is:
The Natural Advantage of Nations: Business Opportunities, Innovation and Governance in the 21st Century

who discusses several refreshingly industry-minded and economically rigorous energy migration tactics which could be adopted immediately, at:
http://www.rmi.org/

I sign off, still hopeful to think together, and still standing by.

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by: Lorra Laven http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/11/20/wicked-witch-of-publishing-swaps-broomstick-for-semi-automatic-christmas-list-includes-hair-raising-thrillers-by-samuel-huntington-bernard-lewis-daniel-pipes-robert-spencer-and-mark-steyn-and-ammo/#comment-3597 Thu, 30 Nov 2006 00:03:16 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/11/20/wicked-witch-of-publishing-swaps-broomstick-for-semi-automatic-christmas-list-includes-hair-raising-thrillers-by-samuel-huntington-bernard-lewis-daniel-pipes-robert-spencer-and-mark-steyn-and-ammo/#comment-3597 Here's what I think: After watching one religious group murder another over their beliefs, <strong>Religion is the root of all <img style="width: 116px; height: 199px" height="199" src="http://webzoom.freewebs.com/lorralaven/lorrapiano2.jpg" width="116" align="right" />evil.</strong> I honestly don't see the difference between any of the fundamentalist religious sects, be they Christian, Jewish or Muslim. They all need to reign themselves in and stop killing those who don't share their version of a higher being and stop threatening Hell and Damnation to those of us who don't believe exactly as they do. As a Christian, I believe that Jesus would weep for what is, supposedly, being done in his name. Y'all gotta STOP and remember the Golden Rule!! <strong><em>Note from the Wicked Witch of Publishing (TM): Amen to that, but try selling the Golden Rule to someone who considers you an infidel whose head must roll.  </em></strong> Here’s what I think: After watching one religious group murder another over their beliefs, Religion is the root of all evil. I honestly don’t see the difference between any of the fundamentalist religious sects, be they Christian, Jewish or Muslim. They all need to reign themselves in and stop killing those who don’t share their version of a higher being and stop threatening Hell and Damnation to those of us who don’t believe exactly as they do.

As a Christian, I believe that Jesus would weep for what is, supposedly, being done in his name.

Y’all gotta STOP and remember the Golden Rule!!

Note from the Wicked Witch of Publishing ™: Amen to that, but try selling the Golden Rule to someone who considers you an infidel whose head must roll. 

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by: Bonnie Calhoun http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/11/20/wicked-witch-of-publishing-swaps-broomstick-for-semi-automatic-christmas-list-includes-hair-raising-thrillers-by-samuel-huntington-bernard-lewis-daniel-pipes-robert-spencer-and-mark-steyn-and-ammo/#comment-3573 Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:35:18 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/11/20/wicked-witch-of-publishing-swaps-broomstick-for-semi-automatic-christmas-list-includes-hair-raising-thrillers-by-samuel-huntington-bernard-lewis-daniel-pipes-robert-spencer-and-mark-steyn-and-ammo/#comment-3573 Cathy...I know many "secular" Muslims like your husband...I referenced this kind of Christian...and Muslim...in my second post to this thread. Secular Muslims are not the problem here..."ALL" Muslims are not the problem here. <strong>Just like in Christianity where you find the fanatics, who during the Crusades thought it was fine to kill in the name of Christ. Now we find fanatic Muslims who are hellbent on killing in the name of Allah.</strong> We got past the Crusades...mainly because there wasn't a lot of worldwide damage they could inflict on horses with spears and swords. But now we have the "fanatical" element of Islam that can literally destroy this world and this country in their quest to rid the world of infidels. And let's make no mistake about it. As citizens of the USA, you, your husband, and your children are at just as much risk from these people as any other color American. When the World Trade Centers fell I will bet you a dollar to a dougnut that there were a lot of Muslims who also died that day. In Iraq right now, it has degraded to basically civil war...That is Sunni Muslims killing Shite Muslims, because of a difference in religious phylosophy. That is Muslim insurgents...mostly from other countries...killing Iraqi Muslims for trying to live in a democratic society. <strong>If there were more level-headed Muslims that spoke out against the fanatical factions there might be less of a problem with other people appearing to blame all Muslims. But I don't see the ground swell of Muslim public opinion trying to divert, subvert, or generally squash, what is clearly a global problem. </strong> Cathy…I know many “secular” Muslims like your husband…I referenced this kind of Christian…and Muslim…in my second post to this thread. Secular Muslims are not the problem here…”ALL” Muslims are not the problem here.

Just like in Christianity where you find the fanatics, who during the Crusades thought it was fine to kill in the name of Christ. Now we find fanatic Muslims who are hellbent on killing in the name of Allah.

We got past the Crusades…mainly because there wasn’t a lot of worldwide damage they could inflict on horses with spears and swords. But now we have the “fanatical” element of Islam that can literally destroy this world and this country in their quest to rid the world of infidels.

And let’s make no mistake about it. As citizens of the USA, you, your husband, and your children are at just as much risk from these people as any other color American. When the World Trade Centers fell I will bet you a dollar to a dougnut that there were a lot of Muslims who also died that day.

In Iraq right now, it has degraded to basically civil war…That is Sunni Muslims killing Shite Muslims, because of a difference in religious phylosophy. That is Muslim insurgents…mostly from other countries…killing Iraqi Muslims for trying to live in a democratic society.

If there were more level-headed Muslims that spoke out against the fanatical factions there might be less of a problem with other people appearing to blame all Muslims. But I don’t see the ground swell of Muslim public opinion trying to divert, subvert, or generally squash, what is clearly a global problem.

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by: cathy http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/11/20/wicked-witch-of-publishing-swaps-broomstick-for-semi-automatic-christmas-list-includes-hair-raising-thrillers-by-samuel-huntington-bernard-lewis-daniel-pipes-robert-spencer-and-mark-steyn-and-ammo/#comment-3528 Wed, 29 Nov 2006 02:59:55 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/11/20/wicked-witch-of-publishing-swaps-broomstick-for-semi-automatic-christmas-list-includes-hair-raising-thrillers-by-samuel-huntington-bernard-lewis-daniel-pipes-robert-spencer-and-mark-steyn-and-ammo/#comment-3528 I appreciate your reply--sorry if I came across too harshly. As an American myself, I can admit that I might feel differently if I were not married to a Muslim. It's given me a unique perspective and having kids that are American and LOOK American, but who are actually half Turkish and therefore could be Muslim has sort of forced me to look at things differently. Anyway--I do respect people's right to free speech--the debate just caught me off guard. And you're right, it's with a big "M"--just my bad grammar mistake. Thanks again for your reply. I appreciate your reply–sorry if I came across too harshly. As an American myself, I can admit that I might feel differently if I were not married to a Muslim. It’s given me a unique perspective and having kids that are American and LOOK American, but who are actually half Turkish and therefore could be Muslim has sort of forced me to look at things differently.

Anyway–I do respect people’s right to free speech–the debate just caught me off guard. And you’re right, it’s with a big “M”–just my bad grammar mistake.

Thanks again for your reply.

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by: cathy http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/11/20/wicked-witch-of-publishing-swaps-broomstick-for-semi-automatic-christmas-list-includes-hair-raising-thrillers-by-samuel-huntington-bernard-lewis-daniel-pipes-robert-spencer-and-mark-steyn-and-ammo/#comment-3504 Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:33:37 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/11/20/wicked-witch-of-publishing-swaps-broomstick-for-semi-automatic-christmas-list-includes-hair-raising-thrillers-by-samuel-huntington-bernard-lewis-daniel-pipes-robert-spencer-and-mark-steyn-and-ammo/#comment-3504 In reference to the "Note from the Wicked Witch of Publishing" I understand what you may have thought you were promoting, but given the discussion that has ensued, I'd think you'd be more cautious next time. Because of beliefs like this, Muslims (with a capital "M" or not) are being harmed and killed in THIS country. These people could be MY children. And shame on anyone who allows and instigates a discussion such as this in a time where ignorance is still so widespread that people are being killed simply for their nationality. This discussion has had virtually nothing to do with books and to imply otherwise is simply not true. Yes, I feel passionately about this. You would as well if you were me. <strong>My husband is a secular Muslim who hasn't even seen the inside of a mosque in years, except for when his mother died a few months ago.</strong> Yet people on this site have classified all Muslims as extremists--allowing that sort of behavior and thought to be perpetuated on this site puts my children and millions of other Muslim children living in this country at risk. THINK before you spread your views. Until now, I have enjoyed and respected your views and your blog. <strong><em>Note from the Wicked Witch of Publishing (TM): Cathy, I am really glad to have you weigh in on this subject, particularly because you have a unique perspective as a woman/wife/mother who is married to a muslim (small "m"). I'm just sorry you didn't weigh in earlier! I try and print all emails as long as they are not libelous or nasty ad hominem attacks. </em></strong> In reference to the “Note from the Wicked Witch of Publishing”

I understand what you may have thought you were promoting, but given the discussion that has ensued, I’d think you’d be more cautious next time. Because of beliefs like this, Muslims (with a capital “M” or not) are being harmed and killed in THIS country. These people could be MY children. And shame on anyone who allows and instigates a discussion such as this in a time where ignorance is still so widespread that people are being killed simply for their nationality. This discussion has had virtually nothing to do with books and to imply otherwise is simply not true. Yes, I feel passionately about this. You would as well if you were me. My husband is a secular Muslim who hasn’t even seen the inside of a mosque in years, except for when his mother died a few months ago. Yet people on this site have classified all Muslims as extremists–allowing that sort of behavior and thought to be perpetuated on this site puts my children and millions of other Muslim children living in this country at risk. THINK before you spread your views. Until now, I have enjoyed and respected your views and your blog.

Note from the Wicked Witch of Publishing ™: Cathy, I am really glad to have you weigh in on this subject, particularly because you have a unique perspective as a woman/wife/mother who is married to a muslim (small “m”). I’m just sorry you didn’t weigh in earlier! I try and print all emails as long as they are not libelous or nasty ad hominem attacks.

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by: cathy http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/11/20/wicked-witch-of-publishing-swaps-broomstick-for-semi-automatic-christmas-list-includes-hair-raising-thrillers-by-samuel-huntington-bernard-lewis-daniel-pipes-robert-spencer-and-mark-steyn-and-ammo/#comment-3499 Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:27:03 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/11/20/wicked-witch-of-publishing-swaps-broomstick-for-semi-automatic-christmas-list-includes-hair-raising-thrillers-by-samuel-huntington-bernard-lewis-daniel-pipes-robert-spencer-and-mark-steyn-and-ammo/#comment-3499 What the heck prompted you to post something like this? <strong>You've opened the floor for ignorance and muslim-bashing.</strong> Trust me, the only people who make comments like this are the people who don't know muslims. <strong>I am married to a muslim man from Turkey.</strong> My children, though born here, are half Turkish. If they'd been born in Turkey they would be muslim. They'd still be the same children. Yes, I understand that Turkey is a modern country and secular in many of their views, but still--to classify "ALL" muslims or any other group of people in any way is simple ignorance. What you have started on this forum and what you have allowed to escalate would be condemned if you were talking about people of differing skin colors. But because you're focusing on people you know nothing about it is somehow acceptable? How can you critisize a supposedly intolerant group of people when you are practicing that very intolerance? Be glad you were born in America. But stop turning your noses up at those who were not. All muslims are not "bad." All American's are not "good." Judge people individually. And please, stop spreading hate. <strong><em>Note from the Wicked Witch of Publishing (TM): When I refer to Muslim (with a capital "M," I am referring to an "adherent of Islam" of the militant variety. The books I (and others) mention in this posting are listed here to inform and educate. You cannot always judge people individually because people are not always what they appear to be.</em></strong> What the heck prompted you to post something like this? You’ve opened the floor for ignorance and muslim-bashing. Trust me, the only people who make comments like this are the people who don’t know muslims. I am married to a muslim man from Turkey. My children, though born here, are half Turkish. If they’d been born in Turkey they would be muslim. They’d still be the same children. Yes, I understand that Turkey is a modern country and secular in many of their views, but still–to classify “ALL” muslims or any other group of people in any way is simple ignorance. What you have started on this forum and what you have allowed to escalate would be condemned if you were talking about people of differing skin colors. But because you’re focusing on people you know nothing about it is somehow acceptable? How can you critisize a supposedly intolerant group of people when you are practicing that very intolerance? Be glad you were born in America. But stop turning your noses up at those who were not. All muslims are not “bad.” All American’s are not “good.” Judge people individually. And please, stop spreading hate.

Note from the Wicked Witch of Publishing ™: When I refer to Muslim (with a capital “M,” I am referring to an “adherent of Islam” of the militant variety. The books I (and others) mention in this posting are listed here to inform and educate. You cannot always judge people individually because people are not always what they appear to be.

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by: Lilly http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/11/20/wicked-witch-of-publishing-swaps-broomstick-for-semi-automatic-christmas-list-includes-hair-raising-thrillers-by-samuel-huntington-bernard-lewis-daniel-pipes-robert-spencer-and-mark-steyn-and-ammo/#comment-3391 Mon, 27 Nov 2006 20:35:04 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/11/20/wicked-witch-of-publishing-swaps-broomstick-for-semi-automatic-christmas-list-includes-hair-raising-thrillers-by-samuel-huntington-bernard-lewis-daniel-pipes-robert-spencer-and-mark-steyn-and-ammo/#comment-3391 lastofadyingbreed....Lovely statistics. Enough to keep all bigots busy, well, bigotting. This is 2006, for heaven's sake. Innocent Iraquis are dying. At weddings, at religious gatherings. Not because they want to. Their life is evey bit as important as yours and mine. You can believe what you want, say what you want. I prefer to care that people of any race or religion are dying needlessly. I especially care that young American soldiers are dying needlessly and no one seems to give a damn. But that's me. One voice. And now I'm going back to my writing. lastofadyingbreed….Lovely statistics. Enough to keep all bigots busy, well, bigotting. This is 2006, for heaven’s sake. Innocent Iraquis are dying. At weddings, at religious gatherings. Not because they want to. Their life is evey bit as important as yours and mine. You can believe what you want, say what you want. I prefer to care that people of any race or religion are dying needlessly. I especially care that young American soldiers are dying needlessly and no one seems to give a damn. But that’s me. One voice. And now I’m going back to my writing.

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by: Bonnie Calhoun http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/11/20/wicked-witch-of-publishing-swaps-broomstick-for-semi-automatic-christmas-list-includes-hair-raising-thrillers-by-samuel-huntington-bernard-lewis-daniel-pipes-robert-spencer-and-mark-steyn-and-ammo/#comment-3328 Mon, 27 Nov 2006 02:20:17 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/11/20/wicked-witch-of-publishing-swaps-broomstick-for-semi-automatic-christmas-list-includes-hair-raising-thrillers-by-samuel-huntington-bernard-lewis-daniel-pipes-robert-spencer-and-mark-steyn-and-ammo/#comment-3328 And if anyone knows, Salman Rushdie ought to be the one! LOL...the Islamic militants perpetually have a hit contracted on that poor man! All it would take is two or three suitcase nukes to turn this country into a veritable wasteland. The only thing that is protecting us now is the diligence of of our own Homeland Security. And if anyone knows, Salman Rushdie ought to be the one! LOL…the Islamic militants perpetually have a hit contracted on that poor man!

All it would take is two or three suitcase nukes to turn this country into a veritable wasteland. The only thing that is protecting us now is the diligence of of our own Homeland Security.

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by: Lynne http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/11/20/wicked-witch-of-publishing-swaps-broomstick-for-semi-automatic-christmas-list-includes-hair-raising-thrillers-by-samuel-huntington-bernard-lewis-daniel-pipes-robert-spencer-and-mark-steyn-and-ammo/#comment-3315 Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:59:28 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/11/20/wicked-witch-of-publishing-swaps-broomstick-for-semi-automatic-christmas-list-includes-hair-raising-thrillers-by-samuel-huntington-bernard-lewis-daniel-pipes-robert-spencer-and-mark-steyn-and-ammo/#comment-3315 Some interesting statistics: <p align="center"><a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/isl_numb.htm">http://www.religioustolerance.org/isl_numb.htm</a></p> <p align="left">Salman Rushdie estimates that 10-15% Muslims are of the militant kind.</p> <p align="left">Yeow! That's a lot of people with a bad attitude toward everyone, but themselves.</p> Some interesting statistics:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/isl_numb.htm

Salman Rushdie estimates that 10-15% Muslims are of the militant kind.

Yeow! That’s a lot of people with a bad attitude toward everyone, but themselves.

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by: Bonnie Calhoun http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/11/20/wicked-witch-of-publishing-swaps-broomstick-for-semi-automatic-christmas-list-includes-hair-raising-thrillers-by-samuel-huntington-bernard-lewis-daniel-pipes-robert-spencer-and-mark-steyn-and-ammo/#comment-3246 Sun, 26 Nov 2006 03:40:40 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2006/11/20/wicked-witch-of-publishing-swaps-broomstick-for-semi-automatic-christmas-list-includes-hair-raising-thrillers-by-samuel-huntington-bernard-lewis-daniel-pipes-robert-spencer-and-mark-steyn-and-ammo/#comment-3246 I'm sorry Peter. <a href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/11736444"><strong><img title="My Photo" style="width: 78px; height: 110px" height="110" alt="My Photo" src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5500/1432/1600/im002400aa.jpg" width="78" align="right" /></strong></a> I would answer you but that would take the debate off onto a whole new tangent. The subject here is terrorism and it militant Islamic connections. I’m sorry Peter. My Photo

I would answer you but that would take the debate off onto a whole new tangent.

The subject here is terrorism and it militant Islamic connections.

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