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Comments on: What Do Authors Scott Spencer, John Irving and Gay Talese have in Common? Sexual Crapulence! http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2008/03/26/what-do-authors-scott-spencer-john-irving-and-gay-talese-have-in-common-sexual-crapulence/ Tendentious comments and cranky critiques by Lynne W. Scanlon P.E.A. (Publisher/Editor/Author) Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:42:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0 by: Maralyn Rittenour http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2008/03/26/what-do-authors-scott-spencer-john-irving-and-gay-talese-have-in-common-sexual-crapulence/#comment-87578 Sun, 06 Apr 2008 21:26:08 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2008/03/26/what-do-authors-scott-spencer-john-irving-and-gay-talese-have-in-common-sexual-crapulence/#comment-87578 Only 4 women commented. Are we just more timid, uptight, afraid of exploitation or worse if we do too much 'hands on' research? Interesting reading as always. Only 4 women commented.

Are we just more timid, uptight, afraid of exploitation or worse if we do too much ‘hands on’ research?

Interesting reading as always.

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by: Tom Clavin http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2008/03/26/what-do-authors-scott-spencer-john-irving-and-gay-talese-have-in-common-sexual-crapulence/#comment-86182 Thu, 03 Apr 2008 03:21:14 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2008/03/26/what-do-authors-scott-spencer-john-irving-and-gay-talese-have-in-common-sexual-crapulence/#comment-86182 Witchy Woman: You are on to a very provocative theme . . . and I wish you had explored it much further. Yes, what are these guys up to, and the publishers that fund them? On a personal note, as a male, well-published writer who will turn 54 this summer, am I in position to instruct my agent to get me a book contract to explore some kind of randy sex project? What if I want to hit the tarmac in Saigon in April 1975 and there is nothing sexy about that? To console me, give me Peggy's number. Witchy Woman:
You are on to a very provocative theme . . . and I wish you had explored it much further. Yes, what are these guys up to, and the publishers that fund them? On a personal note, as a male, well-published writer who will turn 54 this summer, am I in position to instruct my agent to get me a book contract to explore some kind of randy sex project? What if I want to hit the tarmac in Saigon in April 1975 and there is nothing sexy about that? To console me, give me Peggy’s number.

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by: Peggy Payne http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2008/03/26/what-do-authors-scott-spencer-john-irving-and-gay-talese-have-in-common-sexual-crapulence/#comment-85070 Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:35:38 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2008/03/26/what-do-authors-scott-spencer-john-irving-and-gay-talese-have-in-common-sexual-crapulence/#comment-85070 Wicked Witch, It's mighty nice of you to provide the bios, etc., on your commenters. It adds a lot to the page in addition to pleasing those so favored. Wicked Witch, It’s mighty nice of you to provide the bios, etc., on your commenters. It adds a lot to the page in addition to pleasing those so favored.

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by: Brother Rene http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2008/03/26/what-do-authors-scott-spencer-john-irving-and-gay-talese-have-in-common-sexual-crapulence/#comment-85043 Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:04:13 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2008/03/26/what-do-authors-scott-spencer-john-irving-and-gay-talese-have-in-common-sexual-crapulence/#comment-85043 Brother Rene was secretly listening to NPR one day a couple of weeks ago and heard an interview with Scott Spencer. As I recall, Scott said he gained all of his knowledge (about the subject) by interviewing clients and vendors on his many research trips and not by personal experience. I thought he said he took his kids or wife along on a couple of the trips. Can't quite recall the exact details because the subject was irrelevant to the eager but cloistered frater. You can probably still listen to the interview at NPR.org. Bro <em><strong>Note from the Wicked Witch of Publishing (TM): If you say so.</strong></em> Brother Rene was secretly listening to NPR one day a couple of weeks ago and heard an interview with Scott Spencer.

As I recall, Scott said he gained all of his knowledge (about the subject) by interviewing clients and vendors on his many research trips and not by personal experience. I thought he said he took his kids or wife along on a couple of the trips.

Can’t quite recall the exact details because the subject was irrelevant to the eager but cloistered frater. You can probably still listen to the interview at NPR.org.

Bro

Note from the Wicked Witch of Publishing ™: If you say so.

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by: Sridhar Balan http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2008/03/26/what-do-authors-scott-spencer-john-irving-and-gay-talese-have-in-common-sexual-crapulence/#comment-84695 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:18:30 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2008/03/26/what-do-authors-scott-spencer-john-irving-and-gay-talese-have-in-common-sexual-crapulence/#comment-84695 Hi Lynne, Maybe it's male menopause, maybe it's an effort to revive a flagging libido. But the acid test of these books is whether they titilate and one can get a prurient thrill from reading them or is their purpose more serious. Talese's book was rather pathbreaking for its time an we still don't have an answer to what his wife was thinking. I am positing these books against Nancy Friday and others who also claim to be doing 'research'. We also have of course, much more explicit material. To each their own. But some good may still come of it. I would add of interest to sociologists too, in addition to psychologists, psychiatrists and police. But if we can raise awareness about the nexus between organized crime and pornography and exploitation which leads to paedophalia and prostitution, we may be able take some positive action. <em><strong>Note from the Wicked Witch of Publishing (TM): Sridhar Balan is a senior consultant with book publisher Ratna Sagar Private Ltd. He had previously been a director with Oxford University Press, India. He is involved in professional training in publishing and also writes a column on publishing in leading newspapers. </strong></em> Hi Lynne,

Maybe it’s male menopause, maybe it’s an effort to revive a flagging libido. But the acid test of these books is whether they titilate and one can get a prurient thrill from reading them or is their purpose more serious. Talese’s book was rather pathbreaking for its time an we still don’t have an answer to what his wife was thinking. I am positing these books against Nancy Friday and others who also claim to be doing ‘research’.

We also have of course, much more explicit material. To each their own. But some good may still come of it. I would add of interest to sociologists too, in addition to psychologists, psychiatrists and police. But if we can raise awareness about the nexus between organized crime and pornography and exploitation which leads to paedophalia and prostitution, we may be able take some positive action.

Note from the Wicked Witch of Publishing ™: Sridhar Balan is a senior consultant with book publisher Ratna Sagar Private Ltd. He had previously been a director with Oxford University Press, India. He is involved in professional training in publishing and also writes a column on publishing in leading newspapers.

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by: Lorra Laven http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2008/03/26/what-do-authors-scott-spencer-john-irving-and-gay-talese-have-in-common-sexual-crapulence/#comment-84333 Sat, 29 Mar 2008 20:56:12 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2008/03/26/what-do-authors-scott-spencer-john-irving-and-gay-talese-have-in-common-sexual-crapulence/#comment-84333 When I was researching my novel on the cover up of abuse at a private boys' school, I relied on psychologists and their websites like the comprehensive site hosted by Dr. Jim Hopper, PhD.<img width="114" height="105" align="right" src="http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/wp-includes/images/LorraLaven.JPG" /> I never would have considered going to a kiddie porn site; the thought sickens and terrifies me. Trust me when I tell you, I would not do well in Club Fed. Of course, real life is the best resource available. There are just some things you wish you had not had to experience to get your background info. When I was researching my novel on the cover up of abuse at a private boys’ school, I relied on psychologists and their websites like the comprehensive site hosted by Dr. Jim Hopper, PhD.

I never would have considered going to a kiddie porn site; the thought sickens and terrifies me. Trust me when I tell you, I would not do well in Club Fed.

Of course, real life is the best resource available. There are just some things you wish you had not had to experience to get your background info.

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by: staghounds http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2008/03/26/what-do-authors-scott-spencer-john-irving-and-gay-talese-have-in-common-sexual-crapulence/#comment-84100 Sat, 29 Mar 2008 01:31:02 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2008/03/26/what-do-authors-scott-spencer-john-irving-and-gay-talese-have-in-common-sexual-crapulence/#comment-84100 Despite his [Gay Talese] unfortunate name, nine years? It only takes seven for a physician's license! Despite his [Gay Talese] unfortunate name, nine years?

It only takes seven for a physician’s license!

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by: Peggy Payne http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2008/03/26/what-do-authors-scott-spencer-john-irving-and-gay-talese-have-in-common-sexual-crapulence/#comment-84087 Sat, 29 Mar 2008 00:27:47 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2008/03/26/what-do-authors-scott-spencer-john-irving-and-gay-talese-have-in-common-sexual-crapulence/#comment-84087 It's not just men. My next (third) novel, which is near completion, is about a woman who has a religious<img align="right" src="http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/wp-includes/images/PeggyPayne.jpg" /> experience that causes her to go berserk sexually. I'm 59 years old, a little late for a mid-life crisis. I've found that the process of writing the book has been an exploration of the intersection of mysticism and sex that has shown me that connection more clearly. In every book, for me, there are some givens, parts that feel ready-made and waiting to be put on the page. In this book, the sexy parts were the ones that were easiest to write. And fun. <p class="MsoNormal"><em><strong>Note from the Wicked Witch of Publishing (TM): Peggy writes novels and nonfiction books. Her themes are mysticism and sexuality (and the intersection of the two), and creative courage and self-expression. Her most recent novel Sister India, is a New York Times Notable Book of the Year.</strong></em></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><img align="bottom" src="http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/wp-includes/images/SisterIndia.jpg" /></p> <p class="MsoNormal"></p> It’s not just men. My next (third) novel, which is near completion, is about a woman who has a religious experience that causes her to go berserk sexually. I’m 59 years old, a little late for a mid-life crisis.

I’ve found that the process of writing the book has been an exploration of the intersection of mysticism and sex that has shown me that connection more clearly.

In every book, for me, there are some givens, parts that feel ready-made and waiting to be put on the page. In this book, the sexy parts were the ones that were easiest to write. And fun.

Note from the Wicked Witch of Publishing ™: Peggy writes novels and nonfiction books. Her themes are mysticism and sexuality (and the intersection of the two), and creative courage and self-expression. Her most recent novel Sister India, is a New York Times Notable Book of the Year.

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Client #9

That is unkind to poor little Elliott.
Cur

Note from the Wicked Witch of Publishing ™: Maybe former Governor Spitzer should have said he was merely “researching.”

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by: Cur http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2008/03/26/what-do-authors-scott-spencer-john-irving-and-gay-talese-have-in-common-sexual-crapulence/#comment-83959 Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:15:16 +0000 http://www.thepublishingcontrarian.com/2008/03/26/what-do-authors-scott-spencer-john-irving-and-gay-talese-have-in-common-sexual-crapulence/#comment-83959 MEMOIRS BY HIGH-CLASS HOOKERS MAY BE CARTOONISH, BUT NO LESS SO THAN ACCOUNTS THAT CAST PROSTITUTES AS VICTIMS OF RAPACIOUS MALE SEXUALITY. THERE ARE MANY TYPES OF PROSTITUTE, JUST AS THERE ARE MANY REASONS FOR MEN TO VISIT THEM. A GROWN-UP DEBATE ABOUT SEXUALITY MUST ACKNOWLEDGE THIS MEMOIRS BY HIGH-CLASS HOOKERS MAY BE CARTOONISH, BUT NO LESS SO THAN ACCOUNTS THAT CAST PROSTITUTES AS VICTIMS OF RAPACIOUS MALE SEXUALITY. THERE ARE MANY TYPES OF PROSTITUTE, JUST AS THERE ARE MANY REASONS FOR MEN TO VISIT THEM. A GROWN-UP DEBATE ABOUT SEXUALITY MUST ACKNOWLEDGE THIS

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